18:58:01 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Tonights lineup: George C Hall - Zoetrope Renaissance Steve diPaola - Exploring Emergent Creative AI Systems for Art, Health, Social Good and Design Merlin - iPad to KiCad - A Workflow for Art PCBs 18:58:15 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: See more info at http://dorkbotsf.org/archive/202211 18:59:44 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: After all the presentations well open up the doors for everyone to chat and make announcements of your own etc. 19:17:00 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Btw all this is George Hall's zoetrope and recorded by Sudhu Tewari 19:17:12 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: George will take questions via this chat and right after his presentation! 19:18:20 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: Love the drone zone 19:19:05 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: Is this moving into 3d hologram zoetrope territory but we can't tell bc of 2d screen? 19:19:54 From Sudhu Tewari to Everyone: It’s not yet a hologram. maybe next week! 19:20:09 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: And congrats on what looks like a Casio SK-1 keyboard, those are great workhorses for music and analogue sampling. 19:20:42 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: This is so cool! 19:21:07 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: SO COOL ✨ 19:23:21 From babaLou O to Host and Panelists: Bravo and salute. Crazy fun. 19:23:24 From James Young to Host and Panelists: George, you’re ready to handle some q&a? 19:23:38 From ami sun to Host and Panelists: Well done 19:23:47 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: Thanks George! 19:23:56 From Jon Sarriugarte to Host and Panelists: Wow 19:23:57 From Richard Wilks to Host and Panelists: Thank you George! 19:24:00 From James Young to Host and Panelists: q: Doctor Popular: I’m a huge fan of Casio SK-1s and I love circuit bending. That SK-1 in the video appears to be circuit bent. I’d love to know about the mods if possible. 19:24:18 From C G to Host and Panelists: cool 19:24:38 From W D to Host and Panelists: What was the name of the YouTube channel? 19:24:51 From James Young to Host and Panelists: q: Phil Lollar: Is this moving into 3d hologram zoetrope territory but we can't tell bc of 2d screen? 19:24:59 From ami sun to Host and Panelists: How many Zeotropes have You made/created/designed? 19:25:31 From George C Hall to Host and Panelists: azfilmarchive youtube 19:25:37 From Michael Lyons to Host and Panelists: Is George familiar with the 3D “life size” zoetropes that were at Burning Man and the Decompression parties? 19:25:50 From ami sun to Host and Panelists: What Years? 19:26:46 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: There are some old zoetrope devices at the film museum in Niles. 19:27:26 From George C Hall to Host and Panelists: The Niles Zoetropes are mine. Fun place. 19:29:03 From Morgan SynRW to Host and Panelists: We see your screen on the main display, but a smaller thumbnail that would be your camera in the lower left is only showing your name; the actual camera doesn’t seem to be enabled 19:29:08 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Not so blurry if you dont do full screen that may help? 19:34:53 From Michael Lyons to Host and Panelists: What's AI Art? Am I looking at very manipulated videos? 19:35:42 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Hey all im polling you guys - check it out if you want to answer 🙂 19:36:01 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Poll button is on the bottom middle of screen 19:36:35 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: Do you mean slack/discord outside of this zoom chat feature @karenM? 19:37:21 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Yes! IT seems like most people are on the mailing list or on the FB group and they seem to be different. Wondering if having a slack or discord brings everyone together 19:37:36 From Tabby Twist to Everyone: i heard about DorkBotSF on Mastodon. I live in Oakland. 19:38:19 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: It would be another thing to help me move off of FB so.... yes. 19:41:04 From Michael Lyons to Host and Panelists: Aren't there Photoshop filters that do this? 19:41:15 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Sweet im posting on mastodon - damn it forgot to add that to the poll 19:41:36 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: i'll do mastodon anyway but as far as talking to each other should we do discord or slack? 19:42:05 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: WHich company is less likely to crash and burn next year? 19:42:22 From Morgan SynRW to Host and Panelists: Someone sent me a twitter link, I didn’t even know there was a mailing list lol 19:42:25 From Tabby Twist to Everyone: i have discord for now. I also want to get Matrix set up since it is federated like Mastodon 19:42:52 From Morgan SynRW to Host and Panelists: Will the slides be available? 19:43:00 From James Young to Everyone: sounds like another poll, for the opendork after the presenters 19:43:10 From Jonathan Foote to Karen Marcelo(Direct Message): Cool. Matrix can crosspost to slack and discord 19:43:29 From James Young to Everyone: (meaning: slack, discord, etc) 19:43:47 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: Cool. Matrix can crosspost to slack and discord 19:49:33 From Michael Lyons to Host and Panelists: How does this software work? 19:50:23 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: Woh that just got so deep 19:50:57 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Ive only played with midjourney - you send prompts through discord 19:51:29 From ALEXANDRA STEIN to Host and Panelists: Gorgeous 19:52:36 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: They're already good for quickly generating background patterns... I prompted MidJourney with “Sesame street characters designed by HR Giger" and yes, it was satisfying/disturbing. The 3d/painted surface textures are really rich. 19:52:44 From Morgan SynRW to Everyone: Are the slides available anywhere? 19:52:54 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: I wonder if the appeal of midjourney weighs heavily on it being brand new, and as we get used to this ability the dopamine will wear off? Or, as lightly asserted, it's more of an innate drug-like effect that will have dangerous control over our internal systems 19:52:59 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: I'll ask the speakers for their slides - we will post videos too 19:53:00 From James Young to Host and Panelists: q&a dump: q: Michael Lyons: What's AI Art? Am I looking at very manipulated videos? q: Michael Lyons: Aren't there Photoshop filters that do this? q: Morgan SynRW: Will the slides be available? q: Michael Lyons: How does this software work? 19:53:11 From Morgan SynRW to Everyone: Awesome, thank you much! 19:54:52 From Karen Marcelo to Host and Panelists: Hi speakers - people want your slides! if you want you can email them to me and i'll post it on the dorkbot server on the archive page 19:55:15 From ALEXANDRA STEIN to Host and Panelists: Question for Steve: Do you think NFTs will help navigate the space of this new form of image making in terms of validation and ownership of the image? Curious about the ethics and creative control as we venture into this new realm. 19:55:17 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Host and Panelists: I’ll share a link page for mine 🙂 19:58:13 From Ken Goldberg to Host and Panelists: Steve you are wielding this new brush and toolkit like a true artist! Thank you! 19:58:15 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: thank you Steve 19:58:34 From raj kumar to Everyone: Re: the slack/discord question: 19:58:36 From Jon Sarriugarte to Host and Panelists: Thanks steve 19:58:38 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: @glowascii https://chaos.social/web/@alexglow https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/projects https://green-ee.com 19:58:41 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: If your question didnt get answered stick around and ask the speakers during open dork 19:59:34 From Robert Boyle to Host and Panelists: Question: how do you feel about these AI’s being trained on other artists work 19:59:45 From Ken Goldberg to Host and Panelists: Mine isn’t a question; it’s a big thank you! 19:59:49 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Yes Ken - come speak at db soon! 🙂 20:00:16 From Ken Goldberg to Host and Panelists: I miss you guys! 20:01:06 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: @glowascii https://chaos.social/web/@alexglow https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/projects https://green-ee.com 20:01:42 From James Young to Everyone: also: https://linktr.ee/alexglow 20:02:59 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: BTW once we open up the videos to you all - feel free to announce your projects, events, etc. and more questions for the speakers 20:04:01 From kevin mathieu to Host and Panelists: Is copy and paste turned off / locked down from the chat ? 20:04:26 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: patcher.io? 20:04:34 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: ALL yOUR BASE 20:04:43 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: copy paste: i dont think so i was able to paste earlier 20:04:44 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: (from obscure mega drive game ZERO WING) 20:05:47 From kevin mathieu to Host and Panelists: Can't seem to copy from the chat her URL's 20:05:48 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: yay oshpark! 20:06:02 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: whatttt how we get oshpark demo boards 20:06:34 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: omg 4 layer embedded art bad AF 20:06:57 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: huzzah! 20:07:23 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: https://oshpark.com/ 20:07:27 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: after dark is sick af - **We Need to get them to offer After Dark Medium Run** 20:07:34 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: everyone email Oshpark to request thatttt 20:08:44 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: safety mansplainers are waiting in the wings O_O 20:08:46 From Steve DiPaola to Everyone: my site is dipaola.org - and then fork to the art or research sites. I love to collaborate and get together for group art shows - or have others use my tools - also I am old and have done ok with my life - so I like to give back - so helping / mentoring for / networking for folks coming up - especially women in stem / steam- I am dipaola@gmail.com 20:09:15 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: Eagle bitmap importer is legit imo 20:09:57 From raj kumar to Everyone: That portrait is super great 20:10:14 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: siiiiick! 20:11:08 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: I don't know why I hadn’t thought of just making art PCBs without components to practice. 😂 Genius. Why have I been making things so hard on myself. 20:11:48 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: Thank you for that Merlin! 20:13:22 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Very cool! ouija planchette art pcb! 20:14:03 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: screeeeenshot 🤤theres the magic 20:15:06 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: @glowascii https://chaos.social/web/@alexglow https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/projects https://green-ee.com 20:17:58 From Claire Cassidy to Host and Panelists: Does the PCB art need to be exported as a vector, or is a .png just fine? I know procreate can't export vectors at this point. Just trying to figure out the procreate -> Kicad part, though I'm sure I can find it in the tutorial 20:18:06 From matt pinner to Host and Panelists: ya, thanks alex! im finally inspired to learn kicad now 20:19:02 From James Young to Host and Panelists: q: Zach R: whatttt how we get oshpark demo boards 20:19:08 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/ipad-to-kicad-pcb-art-with-procreate-91edc9 20:19:12 From James Young to Host and Panelists: q: Claire Cassidy: Does the PCB art need to be exported as a vector, or is a .png just fine? I know procreate can't export vectors at this point. Just trying to figure out the procreate -> Kicad part, though I'm sure I can find it in the tutorial 20:19:29 From Steve DiPaola to Everyone: amazing work, Alex! 20:19:40 From James Young to Everyone: i've been capturing questions with copypasta, and sometimes i have to try repeatedly for it to work 20:19:52 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: make sure to ctrl + B to fill grad pours when doing KiCAD > oshpark 20:20:04 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: royal circuits is $$$ iirc 20:20:28 From James Young to Everyone: that’s "joule thief" btw 20:22:19 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: KiCAD sadly cannot do rectangles which is why i prefer eagle CAD for bitmap importing rn 20:22:37 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: also EaglCADs bitmap import doesn’t need you to make a footprint 20:22:43 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: Omg thank you 20:22:46 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: but KiCAD is open source and cool af 20:22:49 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: HIIII 20:23:15 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: its evil monopoly vibes 20:23:22 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: YEP 20:23:24 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: SO TRUE 20:23:32 From Rich Trapani to Host and Panelists: “Joule thief” so clever 🙂 20:23:41 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: WHERE CAN WE GET OSHPARK SAMPLE PCBS LIKE U SHOWS 20:23:48 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: SORYR ALL CAPS EKSITED 20:23:58 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: (eke eye ted) 20:24:06 From Steve DiPaola to Everyone: would look great on say guitars 20:24:10 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: royals limits vias!!! 20:24:13 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: to like 12mils 20:24:15 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: its wack 20:24:21 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: 12 or 15 20:24:33 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: OshPark will do 10mil vias 20:24:55 From James Young to Host and Panelists: a Q about how to get oshpark sample PCBs 20:24:57 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: also recommend 7mils Oshpark - they do 6mil but its dodgy 20:25:04 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: 7mil is legiit all the way 20:25:12 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: Also potential for the innards of boutique guitar pedals - like make it look cool under the chassis. 20:25:22 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: ahhh! I knew inkscape would come up at some point. This makes sense. 20:25:35 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: where do we get oshpark demo PCBs?? 20:25:43 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: (^^^ question) 20:25:48 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: oh that's so dope, that last technique 20:25:58 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: *cries* 20:26:33 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: answer: build time machine, go to events years back, rub shoulders with hacker e leets 20:26:36 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: He is! 20:26:52 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: huzzah11 20:26:56 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: ill email u 20:26:56 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: Drew is still at oshpark 20:27:11 From Jon Sarriugarte to Host and Panelists: Thanks 20:27:19 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: Alex is so right 20:27:24 From Phil Lollar to Everyone: Thanks Alex, totally new material to me 20:27:26 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: once u get it down its like riding a bike 20:27:31 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: thanks for making the tutorial!! 20:27:47 From Richard Wilks to Everyone: Amazing! Thank you Alex!!! 20:27:54 From Steve DiPaola to Everyone: great stuff alex - inspiring! 20:27:57 From James Young to Host and Panelists: opendork: steve dipaola? 20:27:57 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: Once again!@glowascii https://chaos.social/web/@alexglow https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/ipad-to-kicad-pcb-art-with-procreate-91edc9 https://www.hackster.io/glowascii/projects https://green-ee.com 20:27:58 From Rich Trapani to Host and Panelists: Such beautiful designs! 20:28:03 From Claire Cassidy to Everyone: Thanks Alex! 20:28:04 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: I’ll post links after 🙂 20:28:10 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: Thank you everyone!! <333 20:28:31 From dave thau to Host and Panelists: nice! thanks everyone 20:28:35 From James Young to Everyone: aw, i think steve left 20:28:46 From Steve DiPaola to Everyone: i am here 20:29:52 From Morgan SynRW to Host and Panelists: Awesome talks, but I gotta run. Have a great evening everyone! 20:30:31 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: Gordon are you playing with toys? 20:30:59 From Rich Trapani to Host and Panelists: Gotta run, great presentations! <3 20:31:14 From James Young to Everyone: ok, i think everyone had a chance at being promoted to panelist, and being on camera 20:31:26 From James Young to Everyone: if i missed you, let me know 20:31:32 From ALEXANDRA STEIN to Host and Panelists: Shameless plug….I want in-person AI events to begin again so I am planning a first event in the new year on January 16th in San Jose please join us for the innagural Arts Interactive Supper Club begins….let’s all get together and eat delicious food and make great AI art together. More details to come….. 20:31:38 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: ok if i missed someone let me know - you should all be panelists now 20:32:24 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: you have to run it with an exercise bike turning a turbine, lol 20:32:28 From Karen Marcelo to ALEXANDRA STEIN, Host and Panelists: hey alex you should announce the salon verbally not everyone may be looking at the chat 20:33:06 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: @Alexandra can you give some links or more information? Sounds great! 20:34:17 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: https://jlcpcb.com/ 20:34:20 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: oshpark.com 20:35:33 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: https://blog.thea.codes/raster-vectorization-with-python 20:37:45 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: not knocking in person but I’m LOVING digital dorkbots 20:37:52 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: I’m in my pajamas and making dinner 😄 20:38:00 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: I love it too 😄 20:38:10 From Zach R to Host and Panelists: also totally wheelchair accessible cause I’m home 😄 20:38:37 From J.D. Zamfirescu-Pereira to Everyone: Alexandra, that sounds great! How can we participate? 20:39:07 From Doctor Popular to Host and Panelists: Rave time! 20:39:25 From raj kumar to Everyone: ah the ranch 20:40:20 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: oh ill make a dorkbotsf mastodon soon - but for now im posting this on k0re@sfba.social 20:40:35 From Doctor Popular to Everyone: Yay Mastodon! 20:40:43 From raj kumar to Everyone: awesome. I set up a mastodon server last night and it has been _super fun_ 20:41:08 From Whitney to Everyone: I’m not in the Bay Area these days so I love the digital events! 20:41:16 From James Young to Everyone: ah, i'm paying for managed mastodon hosting 20:41:33 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Coco threw the best events! 20:41:42 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: This salon from alex will be great! 20:41:44 From James Young to Everyone: operations for DIY mastodon hosting seems like a headache 20:41:59 From J.D. Zamfirescu-Pereira to Everyone: Thanks! Just followed you 🙂 20:42:32 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: Its subjectively "realer” the more it matches your confirmation bias 20:42:33 From Jonathan Foote to Everyone: "this is Dorkbot so we know what we are doing" lol! 21:11:03 From Jeremy Crandell to Host and Panelists: Cheers, folks! Thanks for the presentations and the post-show conversations. Thank you Karen and Jon for pulling everyone together! 21:11:23 From Samuel Coniglio to Host and Panelists: Hi/bye Jeremy! 21:19:49 From MichaelLyons to Everyone: That dancehall of radiant things was great! 21:20:17 From Samuel Coniglio to Host and Panelists: Dicken’s Fair is Back: https://dickensfair.com 21:20:28 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: http://notpron.com/ 21:20:45 From Robert Boyle to Everyone: Night all. Amazing talks. 21:22:12 From Zach R to Everyone: alexandra how do we stay in the loop with ur project? 21:22:50 From Zach R to Everyone: gotta jump off - great discussion y’all!! 21:23:15 From Alex Glow (merlin) to Everyone: Seeya! I should jump off too tbh :0 21:28:36 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: Is it this one? https://dreamingcomputers.com/deforum-stable-diffusion/ 21:58:12 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: craiyon.com is one (free) 21:59:40 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: craiyon is off dalle-2 or -mini I think. 22:01:02 From Clay Graham to Host and Panelists: https://claytantor.com 22:06:06 From Clay Graham to Host and Panelists: https://mastodon.social/@claytantor 22:06:33 From Karen Marcelo to Everyone: k0re@sfba.social 22:07:24 From Phil Lollar to Host and Panelists: Folks I gotta roll, thanks for hosting/attending this event - P